Hillary Clinton may have made headlines for her underwear, but the former first lady is not a man.

In the latest episode of the Netflix documentary, The Undefeated, actor/comedian Michael J. Fox talks to author and former journalist Mark Halperin about why he thinks Clinton’s look made him feel less of a “man” as a man, and what his father’s experience in the military taught him about the importance of a masculine manhood.

“It’s not about the clothes,” Halperi says of his dad, a Navy SEAL, and Clinton’s political history.

“It’s about what you’ve been told to do.

And that’s why the women’s movement is so important.”

The Undefeated follows Clinton as she seeks the Democratic presidential nomination against Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.).

In the episode, Halperis father, former Marine, John, recounts his experience serving in Iraq and Afghanistan.

Halper’s father says he has been a soldier and a war hero.

“I have a military background,” Halberd says.

“My dad had served in the Marine Corps.

He was a Marine officer, and he was a great leader.”

He says his father had been deployed to Afghanistan to rescue civilians trapped by insurgents.

He recalls his father telling him to put his helmet on because he thought he was going to die.

“My father was really, really proud of me for what I did,” Halpert says.

“He didn’t like what I was wearing,” John continues.

“He said, ‘Why are you wearing that?’ and he said, It’s so bad to be a man in Afghanistan.

You’ve been raped, you’ve lost a son, you’re losing your home, you lost a wife.”

Halperin says his dad is not alone in his experience of serving in the armed forces.

“The vast majority of service members are men,” he says.


John and John laugh.

Halpert and Halpert laugh.

And Halpert, who has appeared in the Netflix series The People vs. OJ Simpson, says he knows some of his heroes.

“In my family, my great-grandfather was an Army captain,” he explains.

“In my father’s family, I had a good military father.

And my great grandfather served in World War II.”

The pair, who are both on set in the same studio, are working together on an upcoming comedy project.

Halperi, a veteran of the military, says his first experience as a “war hero” came when he was in his late 30s.

“I think that was the first time I thought, ‘Wow, I’m actually a soldier now,'” he says, adding that he has had to relearn his own military ethos.

He also says that while he has not personally served in combat, he understands the value of service.

“A lot of people say, ‘Well, if you’re an American soldier, you should be proud of it,’ ” he says of serving his country.

“But that’s not the case.”

Halpert adds that he feels like the country has “lost its way.”

“We’ve lost our way,” he adds.

“And it’s very hard to get out of that way.

The country has gone crazy.

And we’re not getting out of it.”